Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby mfrahim » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:29 am

Maybe its tru that BUNUN=DUSUN.
But it different if we say DUSUN=CHINESE.
The are many races in CHINA, they are called chinese cause they live in China. For example Punti is not same with Hakka, they are different in cultural and dresses even language.

Maybe Malay also came from China Mainland but because the religion, the left most of their culture that not in Islamic line.


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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby liang » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:37 pm

mfrahim wrote:Maybe its tru that BUNUN=DUSUN.
But it different if we say DUSUN=CHINESE.
The are many races in CHINA, they are called chinese cause they live in China. For example Punti is not same with Hakka, they are different in cultural and dresses even language.

Maybe Malay also came from China Mainland but because the religion, the left most of their culture that not in Islamic line.


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impossible malay come from china, there exist some minor muslim around south-west china, the influence is by neighbouring country. previously Muslim is not malay, Malay word exist when golden time of Melaka..

Bunun -> dusun-kadazan can be true
dusun-kadazan -> chinese can be false
but Taiwan Bunun <-> Sabah dusun-kadazan can be true.

most of kadazan can speak dusun, dusun slang almost the same with kadazan. the only name is not the same, these two are from same family group..
Just like chinese have hakka and hokkien.. hakka and hokkien combine become chinese
same thing happen in kadazan-dusun..
Most of chinese in Sabah is hakka, so it could be new thing like "hakka-kadazan-dusun" we still haven't found.
Some chinese when they come sabah long time ago, they forget about their race.. they called themselves kadazan or dusun.. they live longer than ever..
after than chinese business-man come, they don't know that kadazan and dusun are chinese previously.. they treat each other like enemy, because they don't know
Just like your father have two wife, two wife didn't know each others, then sons of two wife met, but they dun know they come from same family.
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby liang » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:43 pm

Community did not fully accept Stephens' move: Ex-Editor
Kota Kinabalu: Former Editor of the North Borneo News-Sabah Times, Datuk Fauzi Patel, said the recent stand by the Kadazan Society Sabah (KSS) that there is no race such as "Kadazandusun" but only "Kadazan" or "Dusun", indicates that efforts to make the community accept a singular unified label since 1961 has not worked according to expectations.

Patel said even during his time, the issue never died down but only became less and less prominent. "It's like a yo yo. The campaign will die down, and then come up when some strong leader comes up and raise the thing.

"The term 'Kadazan' was never accepted by the Dusun community but for political expediency, they tolerated it," he said.

Patel was appointed Editor in 1961 by the late Tun Fuad Stephens when the latter was appointed as an Executive Councillor by the British and too busy to take charge of the paper. Stephens, however, remained as the publisher of the paper.

Recalling the formation of the United National Kadazan Organisation (Unko) at a congress at the KK Community Centre in 1961, he said to form a political party to represent the Kadazan community in the wake of the Malaysia Proposal was the main agenda of the congress.

It was then and there that the debate over the Kadazan and Dusun issue came about. At the end of the day, the term "Kadazan" was adopted to describe the community.

Patel, who later started the Kinabalu Times, recalled that during that period, there were about more than a dozen Kadazan societies and ethnic associations throughout Sabah.

"Every district had one. When Fuad became the President of Kadazan Society of Penampang, there were just cultural events and things like that.

There was no politics involved. Suddenly, out of the blue, this proposal about Malaysia came about.

"There were no political parties, so there was a scramble to form political parties so they can represent the views of the people. So what Fuad and his friends did was invite all the representatives of these Kadazan societies and associations for the gathering and it became known as the Unko Congress.

"Unko Congress was actually a sort of the unification of these associations for political purpose," he pointed out.

Prominent leaders like Sedomon and Sundang, and other respected community leaders were also invited. According to Patel, the congress wanted the name of the party (to be formed) and then the people present came up with the idea that the party should be called United National Kadazan Organisation (Unko).
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby liang » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:54 pm

liang wrote:Community did not fully accept Stephens' move: Ex-Editor
Kota Kinabalu: Former Editor of the North Borneo News-Sabah Times, Datuk Fauzi Patel, said the recent stand by the Kadazan Society Sabah (KSS) that there is no race such as "Kadazandusun" but only "Kadazan" or "Dusun", indicates that efforts to make the community accept a singular unified label since 1961 has not worked according to expectations.

Patel said even during his time, the issue never died down but only became less and less prominent. "It's like a yo yo. The campaign will die down, and then come up when some strong leader comes up and raise the thing.

"The term 'Kadazan' was never accepted by the Dusun community but for political expediency, they tolerated it," he said.

Patel was appointed Editor in 1961 by the late Tun Fuad Stephens when the latter was appointed as an Executive Councillor by the British and too busy to take charge of the paper. Stephens, however, remained as the publisher of the paper.

Recalling the formation of the United National Kadazan Organisation (Unko) at a congress at the KK Community Centre in 1961, he said to form a political party to represent the Kadazan community in the wake of the Malaysia Proposal was the main agenda of the congress.

It was then and there that the debate over the Kadazan and Dusun issue came about. At the end of the day, the term "Kadazan" was adopted to describe the community.

Patel, who later started the Kinabalu Times, recalled that during that period, there were about more than a dozen Kadazan societies and ethnic associations throughout Sabah.

"Every district had one. When Fuad became the President of Kadazan Society of Penampang, there were just cultural events and things like that.

There was no politics involved. Suddenly, out of the blue, this proposal about Malaysia came about.

"There were no political parties, so there was a scramble to form political parties so they can represent the views of the people. So what Fuad and his friends did was invite all the representatives of these Kadazan societies and associations for the gathering and it became known as the Unko Congress.

"Unko Congress was actually a sort of the unification of these associations for political purpose," he pointed out.

Prominent leaders like Sedomon and Sundang, and other respected community leaders were also invited. According to Patel, the congress wanted the name of the party (to be formed) and then the people present came up with the idea that the party should be called United National Kadazan Organisation (Unko).




about the use of "Dusun" when the name, Kadazan, was introduced as the new identity of the Dusun people in the early 1960s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusun

While Kadazan was an official designation for this ethnic group, it is widely believed that the term itself was a political derivative that came into existence in the late 1950s to early 1960s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadazan
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby bushido » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:38 pm

mdes320 wrote:
Kita tidak tau scenario sebenar antara KDM dgn Bunun, tapi untuk perbincangan lebih fokus kepada KDM dgn Bunun, kita boleh mengabaikan kaitan antara Australian, Malayan, Philipin, Hawai dgn Bunun di Taiwan ini, sebab tiada persamaan kita nampak yg mereka ada, dari segi kebudayaan, pakaian hitam dan pesta menuai perayaan. Untuk menyempitkan penyelidikan kita, marilah kita cuma fokus kepada KDM dan Bunun Taiwan sahaja.

Soalan sekarang, siapa yang asas dan siapa yg berhijrah? Bunun boleh berhijrah ke Borneo jadi KDM today, begitu juga KDM pun boleh berhijrah ke Taiwan dan menjadi Bunun today.

Kalau kamu tanya saya soalan di atas, saya lebih percaya Bunun yang asas, yg berhijrah ke Borneo, lepas tu membentuk bangsa KDM hari ini.
Alasan saya ialah, Bunun adalah orang cina taiwan, dan orang cina dari 1 - 2 ribu tahun dahulu sudah ada kemahiran membina Kapal, mereka mampu berlayar dan merentasi lautan besar seperti Laut China Selatan (Misalnya Cheng Ho). Manakala kita tiada bukti rekok yg menunjukkan KDM ada kemahiran membina Kapal besar pada zaman dulu. Kalau ada pun tiada catitan bukti bahawa KDM pernah berlayar ke dunia lain.

Tambahan pula, Borneo ialah Benua yang ISOLATED dikelilingi oleh laut, cuma jalan laut sahaja yg boleh masuk dan keluar mendarat di sini. Unlike Semenanjung Malaya, orang sana boleh berjalan kaki melalui Thailand, Vietnam, masuk China atau sebaliknya. Di sini hanya Jalan Laut 1 cara saja.
Oleh itu, sesiapa yg ada Kapal, dia lah yg boleh datang ke sini.


Dalam adat kami, kalau seseorang di jatuhi hukuman atau denda kerana melanggar peraturan maka ada istilah pesalah itu di jatuhi hukuman denda Sandangau Kutai atau Sandangau Bulungan atau Sandangau Burunai. Sandangau bermakna Sanang atau Tavag/Tawag.

Jika seseorang di denda 1 biji Sandangau Kutai maka orang yang di hukum itu harus dapatkan Tavag tersebit di Kutai Kalimantan. Kalau di denda Sandangau Bulungan bermakna orang yang kena denda itu harus dapatkan Sandangau Bulungan di Bulungan Kalimantan. Setelah kewujudan perdagangan Burunai @ brunei maka ada istilah Sandangau Burunai di mana gong tersebut didapat dari Burunai.

Ada pelbagai cara utk dpatkan gong tersebut dan biasanya orang Rungus datang sendiri ke tempat tersebut untuk dapatkannya kerana mereka takut mempercayakan orang lain seperti kisah benar seorang rungus yang mempercayakan kpd orang Sulu utk menempah Gong ke Brunei dan akhirnya hasil pertaniannya sudah di bawa tetapi gongnya tidak di dapat. Kisah ini adalah kisah benar iaitu kisah seorang rungus bernama Gumbori yg di tipu oleh sulu. Kubur orang ini masih wujud sampai sekarang. Oleh sebab itu pilihan adalah harus mempunyai kapal mereka sendiri utk pergi belayar ke tempat yang mereka hendak tujui.
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby bushido » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:01 pm

mdes320 wrote:
bushido wrote:Kalau mereka adalah minoriti di sana, apakah kemungkinan mereka ini sebenarnya berasal dari gugusan Austonesian di Nusantara? Kalau tidak demikian bermakna 351 juta Asutronesian di Australia, Indonesia, Malaya, Borneo, Philipin, hawai dan gugusan sekitarnya adalah berasal dari China iaitu berasal dari Minoriti Bunun di Taiwan? Persoalannya kenapa Bunun sedikit sedangkan mereka adalah asal? Saya rasa masih lagi dalam persoalan.


Tidak semestinya tempat yang berasal itu mestilah yang ada penduduk majority, dan tempat yang mereka menghijrah ke luar itu mestilah yang minority, misalnya kita boleh ambil bangsa Jews sebagai example, mereka berasal dari Jerussalam Gaza (Israel hari ini), beribu-ribu tahun sudah mereka kena halau keluar dari tempat asal mereka, jadi mereka lah yang minority di tempat asal mereka, tempat lain yg mereka menghijrah ke luar lagi banyak. ( I mean sebelum mereka kembali ke tempat asal mereka hari ini.)

Kita tidak tau scenario sebenar antara KDM dgn Bunun, tapi untuk perbincangan lebih fokus kepada KDM dgn Bunun, kita boleh mengabaikan kaitan antara Australian, Malayan, Philipin, Hawai dgn Bunun di Taiwan ini, sebab tiada persamaan kita nampak yg mereka ada, dari segi kebudayaan, pakaian hitam dan pesta menuai perayaan. Untuk menyempitkan penyelidikan kita, marilah kita cuma fokus kepada KDM dan Bunun Taiwan sahaja.

Soalan sekarang, siapa yang asas dan siapa yg berhijrah? Bunun boleh berhijrah ke Borneo jadi KDM today, begitu juga KDM pun boleh berhijrah ke Taiwan dan menjadi Bunun today.

Kalau kamu tanya saya soalan di atas, saya lebih percaya Bunun yang asas, yg berhijrah ke Borneo, lepas tu membentuk bangsa KDM hari ini.
Alasan saya ialah, Bunun adalah orang cina taiwan, dan orang cina dari 1 - 2 ribu tahun dahulu sudah ada kemahiran membina Kapal, mereka mampu berlayar dan merentasi lautan besar seperti Laut China Selatan (Misalnya Cheng Ho). Manakala kita tiada bukti rekok yg menunjukkan KDM ada kemahiran membina Kapal besar pada zaman dulu. Kalau ada pun tiada catitan bukti bahawa KDM pernah berlayar ke dunia lain.

Tambahan pula, Borneo ialah Benua yang ISOLATED dikelilingi oleh laut, cuma jalan laut sahaja yg boleh masuk dan keluar mendarat di sini. Unlike Semenanjung Malaya, orang sana boleh berjalan kaki melalui Thailand, Vietnam, masuk China atau sebaliknya. Di sini hanya Jalan Laut 1 cara saja.
Oleh itu, sesiapa yg ada Kapal, dia lah yg boleh datang ke sini.


cuba berikan persamaan dalam bahasa Kadazan Dusun dan Bunun dari 1 hingga 10? lepas itu bandingkan dengan link saya sebelum ini ttg bahasa2 dan kiraan2 dalam Austronesian yang berasal dari bunyi yang sama dari kiraan 1 hingga 10.

Yahudi kalau tak silap saya ada 10 juta orang. 4 juta di negaranya Israel dan 6 juta adalah berselerak di seluruh dunia dan tidak dapat di samakan dengan keadaan 350 juta Austronesian yang kiraan 1 hingga 10 dalam hampir kesemua ethnik itu adalah berasal dari bunyi yang sama. hakikatnya majoritu yahudi adalah di negara Israel iaitu 4 juta lain-lain tempat di dunia tiada yang dapat dikatakan kehadiran Yahudi sebagai majoriti. Oleh sebab itu tidak ada bukti Bunun adalah asal usul KDM. Kalau pasal pakaian masih begitu banyak suku dan etnik lain dalam Austronesian yang sama pakaian dengan KDM malah kiraan 1 hingga 10 pun hampir sama.
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby mfrahim » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:27 pm

liang wrote:
impossible malay come from china, there exist some minor muslim around south-west china, the influence is by neighbouring country. previously Muslim is not malay, Malay word exist when golden time of Melaka..


Remember friend, when Parameswara arrived at Malacca, all the Malay still not embrace Islam. Remember also there are many Malay in Peninsula long before Parameswara arrived but only Parameswara build it empire and monarchy. Maybe they came from China even during BC.

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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby bushido » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:48 pm

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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby zai1967 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:43 am

mdes320 wrote:The cultured of Kadazan Dusun Murut (KDM) very similar to Bunun race of Taiwan....
Just look at their culture and harvest song, as well as the dancing style, and also see their clothing fashion....
I can say it is atmost 90% simlar.

And there is place at Taiwan named Alisan (a mountain), and the word "Alisan" possible mean "Kadazan"
and if it is true then it might be KDM are originated from the place of Alisan at Taiwan.

During the old days, because the transporation services very lousy (didn't have Airasia), so it is very hard for either Bunun race copying the KDM culture, or KDM race copying the Bunun race culture, and it is also very hard for each of them known the existence of other race in the earth....

But after I see the similar cultured both races (BUNUN and DUSUN) look atmost the same....
I guess there might be strong connection between DUSUN/KADAZAN with this BUNUN race (CHINA)

What do you think?

Look at the youtube video below:
Look at BUNUN dancing style and their clothing: Atmost 99% similar to KDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2ZpZkfaUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIt5f9SIVJA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9M2ZHMg82Q&feature=related



Girl of Alisan: (May be "Alisan" mean "Kadazan")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAuEOVTS2hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2EhJXx7Tp4



Harvest Song by Bunun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9M2ZHMg82Q&feature=related


omg... this is a big news!!! isn't Kadazan Dusun under Austronesia???!!! hmmm ... when i check at wikipedia... logic.. cause taiwan got Austronesia people & sino-tibetan(aka chinese). i found that information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Tibetan_languages
look at the map!!! OK
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby TrueSonOfTheSoil » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:12 pm

mdes320 wrote:The cultured of Kadazan Dusun Murut (KDM) very similar to Bunun race of Taiwan....
Just look at their culture and harvest song, as well as the dancing style, and also see their clothing fashion....
I can say it is atmost 90% simlar.

And there is place at Taiwan named Alisan (a mountain), and the word "Alisan" possible mean "Kadazan"
and if it is true then it might be KDM are originated from the place of Alisan at Taiwan.

During the old days, because the transporation services very lousy (didn't have Airasia), so it is very hard for either Bunun race copying the KDM culture, or KDM race copying the Bunun race culture, and it is also very hard for each of them known the existence of other race in the earth....

But after I see the similar cultured both races (BUNUN and DUSUN) look atmost the same....
I guess there might be strong connection between DUSUN/KADAZAN with this BUNUN race (CHINA)

What do you think?

Look at the youtube video below:
Look at BUNUN dancing style and their clothing: Atmost 99% similar to KDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2ZpZkfaUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIt5f9SIVJA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9M2ZHMg82Q&feature=related

Girl of Alisan: (May be "Alisan" mean "Kadazan")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAuEOVTS2hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2EhJXx7Tp4

Harvest Song by Bunun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9M2ZHMg82Q&feature=related

aya i dont understand the santung-santung word in the video..and the kdm did not have any costume those days...we only naked.. :slaugh:
the original pagan kdm believe the God Kinorohingan created the Dusun people in the jungle of Nunuk Ragang and the spirit of the Dusun people will return to the Mount of Kinabalu nowherelse ...not Bunun, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Chuongkok, America or watever... :lolrf: :lolrf: :lolrf:
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby kulutung » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:26 pm

TrueSonOfTheSoil wrote:
mdes320 wrote:The cultured of Kadazan Dusun Murut (KDM) very similar to Bunun race of Taiwan....
Just look at their culture and harvest song, as well as the dancing style, and also see their clothing fashion....
I can say it is atmost 90% simlar.

And there is place at Taiwan named Alisan (a mountain), and the word "Alisan" possible mean "Kadazan"
and if it is true then it might be KDM are originated from the place of Alisan at Taiwan.

During the old days, because the transporation services very lousy (didn't have Airasia), so it is very hard for either Bunun race copying the KDM culture, or KDM race copying the Bunun race culture, and it is also very hard for each of them known the existence of other race in the earth....

But after I see the similar cultured both races (BUNUN and DUSUN) look atmost the same....
I guess there might be strong connection between DUSUN/KADAZAN with this BUNUN race (CHINA)

What do you think?



Look at the youtube video below:
Look at BUNUN dancing style and their clothing: Atmost 99% similar to KDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f2ZpZkfaUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIt5f9SIVJA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9M2ZHMg82Q&feature=related



Girl of Alisan: (May be "Alisan" mean "Kadazan")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAuEOVTS2hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2EhJXx7Tp4



Harvest Song by Bunun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9M2ZHMg82Q&feature=related

aya i dont understand the santung-santung word in the video..and the kdm did not have any costume those days...we only naked.. :slaugh:
what i understand the original pagan kdm believes the God Kinorohingan created the Dusun People in the jungle of Nunuk Ragang and the spirit of the Dusun people will return to the Mount of Kinabalu nowherelse ...not Bunun, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Chuongkok or watever... :lolrf: :lolrf: :lolrf:


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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby Myrtus lvly » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:08 am

shingga kini asal-usul msyrkt dusun di sbh masih dapat diperbahaskn..tapi setakat ini maklumat yg ada cenderung kepada China..kmungkinan msyrkt dusun merupakan kesinambungan kepada msyrkt bao yang sdh 'hilang'. keranda kayu balak yang terdapat di Agop Tulug merupakan salah satu daripada pengaruh kebudayaan bao..namun semua ini belum di buktikan secara 100% kesahihan faktanya. sekitar kinabatangan dan kawasan terdekat merupakn antara kawasan petempatan terawal di borneo. nama kinabatangan itu juga berasal daripada perkataan China kina (cina) dan batang (sungai).sepanjang sungai ini memang terdapat bnyak artifak yang menggambrkan tentang China..masyarakat sekitarnya juga mmpunyai persamaan fizikal dengan masyarakat cina, china.

masyarakat dusun ini juga dikatakan berasal dari indonesia kerana mempunyai persamaan dengan masayarakat dayak indonesia..dan masyarakat dayak indonesia ini juga berkemungkinan berasal dari China berdasarkan persamaan fizikal dan perayaan..perkaitan antara ketiga2 masyarakat ini masih belum dikaji sepenuhnya sebab itulah belum ada bukti yang sahih untuk memberikan fakta..namun masyarakat dusun ini masih dikaitkan dengan China walaupun dikatakan berasal dari indonesia..

sebelum nama 'dusun' ini digunakan oleh kesultanan brunei yang merujuk kepada msyrkt 'dusun' yang ada sehingga kini, mungkin kita mempunyai nama lain sblm 'dusun'. tapi sehingga kini sy masih belum menemui nama masyarakat 'dusun' sebelumnya.

sy harap dapat jumpala nt..
klua ada sesiapa yang mahu perbtulkn,,tolongla prbetulkn..
klu ada yang mahu memberikan penambahan maklumat..dipersilakn berkongsi bersama... :grin:
iti noh koposion..mintong nopo id sawat kada lihuai tanah ulokon..steady ko bo asi!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby yanakanak » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:36 am

No evidence,

KDM not from Taiwan or somewhere else,

Kalo kamu jumpa orang yang mengamalkan budaya/tarian dll yang serupa di tempat lain, cuba kira berapa besar komuniti itu dan bandingkan dengan bilangan yang ada di sabah. kalo amat besar dan jauh bezanya melebihi yang ada di sabah, mybe boleh lah dipertimbangkan. tapi kalo bilangan amat sikit, mana mungkin kita yang berasal dari sana.

kalo boleh suka2 cakap begitu. nanti tu negro di afrika suka2 saja orang cakap berasal dari malaysia memandangkan bilangan mereka yang semakin banyak di Malaysia :lolrf:

Mungkin mereka yang berasal dari Sabah.
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby naina ahmad » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:54 pm

kalau ikut sejarah yg ku belajar di sekolah dulu... ahli sejarah pun tidak dapat pastikan bangsa yang pertama menghuni negeri kita ini @ yg boleh dikira penduduk asal sabah. cuma disebut kaum kadazan/dusun sebagai kaum majoritinya...berbeza dgn semenanjung ,sebab itu dipanggil Tanah Melayu. jadi kemungkinan besar kadazan lah yg datang dari china.. dusun = bunun? I AGREE!cuba kamu fikir.. diorang dulu amalkan Animisme dan hidup secara Nomad.kalau ada penyakit yg diorang tidak tau ubati(contoh sakit sawan)...boleh jadi pesakit itu diorang kasi tinggal..tapi dia tidak semestinya mati kan? dan mereka itulah yg menjadi kaum bunun minoriti yg masih ada di Taiwan today!
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Re: Is Kadazan Dusun race originated from CHINA Taiwan?

Postby naina ahmad » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:41 pm

sebenarnya tak kiralah kita bangsa dusun, melayu,cina,bugis,india atau eropah sekalipun asal-usul paling awal ialah manusia bangsanya adam(male) dan hawa(female) yang diturunkan oleh Tuhan dari Syurga.manakala bahasa manusia yg pertama ialah bahasa arab(bahasa di syurga).kewujudan pelbagai bangsa disebabkan manusia yg mulai hidup secara berkelompok-kelompok.bahasa-bahasa seperti hindi yg kita dengar sendiri mirip dgn bahasa arab mugkin dulunya dicipta sebagai bahasa rahsia untuk satu kelompok shj.mcm zaman sekolah dulu,ramai student tulis love letter guna bahasa dan tulisan yg diubah dari bahasa asal supaya orang lain tak boleh tau isi surat tu.contoh sapayapa/sarayara/sakayaka perkataan asalnya SAYA.makin lama makin ramai yg faham dan guna bahasa/tulisan macam tu,cuma tidak diiktiraf saja.
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